In a message dated 5/6/05 12:58:22 PM,
bsandyman@att.net writes:
> After reading this thoughtful reply it occurred to
me that was meant was
> that Hemingway wrote about a person effecting the
environment, situation, what
> ever that he was in, while Conrad wrote about the
situation effecting the
> person.
>
> Put another way, one might ask what changes from the
beginning to the end of
> stories from these authors. Ex. The Old Man comes
back from the ocean with
> the carcass of a sword fish. Yes it isn't much, and
he had to fight hard to
> get that, but the universe did have to yield just
that little bit. By contrast
> the universe in 'Heart of Darkness' is immutable and
it is the people that
> change. (At least as far as my sketchy memory allows
me to comment.)
>
> To write about the human condition, is to write
about the situation that
> human's find themselves in, possibly at the expense
of the characters. (Seems
> like this is one of the main appeals of Noir and
existentialism. YMMV.) It
> needs human characters to make the point, but your
not really talking about the
> human.
>
almost sounds like the difference between noir and hard
boiled
John Lau
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