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In DETOUR, the
> protagonist begins the movie (I haven't read the
book) as a poor
> schlep who gets a ride with the wrong guy at the
wrong time--from
> there he makes 1 bad choice after the other leading
him to a
certain
> fate--but when he hitched that ride he was
completely clueless
about
> what "fate" had in store for him.
But all that actually happens is that Haskell, the man who
gave Al a ride, dies of a heart attack. If somebody who had
given me a ride died of a heart attack, I'd call an
ambulance. But Al somehow manages to work out that if he
walks away from the car (the only 'honest' course of action
he sees as being available to him), somebody else will come
along and steal it, and the police will claim that he did it.
So he decides he might as well steal it anyway, along with
Haskell's wallet and other belongings. What happens to Al
after that is pretty much inevitable, but he has nobody to
blame but himself.
It's been a while since I've read
> CAT CHASER, but if I remember correctly the hero is
an ex-soldier
> who's been invovlved in covert action & as such
he at least has
> experience of the violent world of the "hardboiled."
The fact that
> he comes out ahead also suggest that this isn't a
"pure" noir--I'd
> say the real noir does not have a happy ending (or
such an ending
> doesn't really ring true).
But the ending is only happy if seen from the central
character's perspective. Leonard is extremely critical of the
character. Most of Charles Willeford's novels end with their
amoral narrators emerging triumphant, and these are among the
darkest noirs ever written.
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