RE: RARA-AVIS: Willeford, Edward Bunker and Jim Thompson

From: John & Carrie ( johncarrie@sprynet.com)
Date: 01 Jan 2001


Kip sed:

> Thompson and Willeford? Except for coming from neighboring states
> (Oklahoma and Arkansas, respectively), I think their backgrounds
> don't have
> much in common. Both did the hoboing thing. But Thompson was very much a
> political man, associated with the American Communist Party and all of
> that; Willeford thought of politics as being an arena for small men with
> small minds (I think I paraphrased that pretty accurately) and
> was a career
> Army guy. Their basic views seem to be quite different:

I think Kip is right on the money here. Particularly in terms of politics and craft. Thompson was pro-union and Willeford anti-union (at least when it came to paying dues). I've always thought that Thompson, in terms of writing ability, was much the hack. As Kip notes though, he did great things notwithstanding his limitations. Willeford, on the other hand, is one of the better craftsmen in the genre.

They do share a unique dark cynicism, Thompson being the darker, even cruder, of the two.

Other than his early work (Wild Wives, High Priest, I don't find Willeford particularly funny. I've found myself laughing out loud at Thompson's stuff...and not just at his ham handed writing.

Tribe

> Thompson is dark;
> Willeford, more absurdist. I think Thompson wrote some classics
> (POP 1280,
> THE KILLER INSIDE ME, THE GRIFTERS, THE GETAWAY) that succeed in spite of
> rather than because of his prose style. I know I'm probably being
> sacrilegious here, but I think Willeford was far the superior writer when
> it comes to prose style, character development, plotting, inventiveness,
> and so forth. And Willeford is a master of what everyone used to call
> "black humor," although I don't hear that term much anymore (black humor
> masters included Terry Southern, Bruce J. Friedman, and Joseph
> Heller). I
> always laughed when I read Willeford. The collapsing outhouse
> scene in POP
> 1280 is the only thing in Thompson that ever made me chuckle.
>
> Later.....Kip (and best for the New Year)
>
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