On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, David Geelan wrote: : I hope that the list will be broad enough in its focus to encompass : my areas of interest - ie the exciting places where the genre : borders break down - and that it won't be hijacked by purists of any : stripe. Thanks for the introduction, David. I'm the list owner, so I'll introduce myself a bit. I'm 29, and live in Toronto, Canada, doing Internet-related things like running Web servers and Unix machines. I've been a fan of hardboiled fiction for about 13 years, and my collection of books keeps building. I have about 180, with a dozen more non-fiction works about the genre. I'm especially partial to the old pocket-size paperbacks, from Pocket Books and Dell, with the lurid covers. I think my interest started when I lived in England for a year and Channel 4 ran a series of old Warner Brothers gangster movies, with Bogart, Cagney and Robinson. I loved them, and started to read Hammett and Chandler, and went on from there. I was also getting really bored with Agatha Christie and Dorothy L. Sayers (I think she's deadly dull), but I still wanted to read old mysteries. As to being hijacked by purists, I think that if it's related to hardboiled fiction, then it's appropriate. Movie adaptations, radio series, books that tweak the genre, those sorts of things are all fine. However, I don't want things to stray too far. It seems like a lot of the barriers that used to be in place are falling down, and (at least on Usenet) it's getting tougher to find focused discussions. I'm a big Sinatra fan (I maintain a popular site about him) and have been on the mailing list about him since it started. It's devolved to where people are talking about the Jimmy Stewart time capsule that was found in Florida a few days ago. I don't want that to happen here. I think everyone will be happiest if when they get mail that says "RARA-AVIS" in the subject, they know it's either about hardboiled fiction or is related, and doesn't have the Neiman-Marcus cookie recipe. There are now 48 people on the list, a few of whom I recognize from Usenet or have exchanged mail with. How about some more introductions? Anybody reading something hardboiled right now? I just finished Charles Willeford's _The Shark-Infested Custard_, and shifted into pure pulp with a Doc Savage collection I found. Would anyone care to review the new bio of Hammett and Hellman? It's quite expensive, and I wonder if it's worth waiting for the paperback. If anyone has any lists, like bibliographies of writers, please feel free to send them around or to me, and I will archive them on the web page. As well as discussions, I'm hoping to pull a fair bit of reference material from here. But don't let that stop you from chatting away. Cheers, Bill -- William Denton : buff@vex.net <-- Please note new address. Toronto, Canada <-- I'm not at io.org any more. http://www.vex.net/~buff/ Caveat lector. - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca