Definitely hardboiled!
I contend that the best definition I've heard for some time -- perhaps the
best I've yet heard -- is from David Corbett's recent essay where he wrote,
" Noir is precisely about men and women whose misfortune is brought about
through “vice or depravity.” It’s a subgenre of tragedy, in which the error
of judgment is the belief, often born of desperation, that a criminal act
can redeem one’s pitiless luck."
That last sentence encapsulates exactly how I envision noir and, as someone
else on this list mentioned, it's a heckuva lot richer (and accurate) than
"noir = screwed."
Ron C.
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> no way! that's hard boiled.
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> > From: jean-pierre jacquet <jacquet@optonline.net>
> > Subject: RARA-AVIS: Best definition of noir?
> > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, November 6, 2010, 2:03 PM
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> > > Steve Weddle (@steveweddle)
> > > 11/6/10 12:52
> > > At panel, @DocNoir was asked "what is noir?" He said
> > "how about I break your f-king neck and show you?"
> > #noircon2010
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