That's actually quite helpful, although one can sort of pick holes in it right away. For instance, High Priest Of California or Appointment In Samarra don't really include much in the way of violence. And, for that matter, Chandler and Hammett include much less violence than their imitators did.
But what all of the noir books do have, or should have, is the pervasive atmosphere of inescapable and ironic doom. That's sort of an unbroken line all the way up to Ellroy and Lehane.
But, still, an informative and interesting link.
James
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From: David Rachels
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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 19:48
Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Where have you gone Rara-Avis
If there is actually anyone out there who craves more on the issue of "What is noir?," you might be interested in this:
http://noirboiled.blogspot.com/2010/07/serie-noire-project-introduction.html
It's an attempt to define noir using the beginning of the Gallimard Série Noire as a defining moment.
Best,
David
On Jul 11, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Jack Bludis wrote:
> Maybe we need a good old, what is noir what is hardboiled conflict to liven things up.
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