Re: RARA-AVIS: Posthumous Westlake etc.

From: BaxDeal@aol.com
Date: 20 Apr 2010

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    I think I actually have that short story collection lying about somewhere from its first publication in the late '80s. Is it the one called "Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe"?

     that's the one

    John Lau

     

     "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize."
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    -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kennedy <pbjk2004@yahoo.co.uk> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 11:19 am Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Posthumous Westlake etc.

    I think I actually have that short story collection lying about somewhere from its first publication in the late '80s. Is it the one called "Raymond Chandler's Philip Marlowe"? I'm afraid it didn't leave a lasting impression on me, but my inability to throw any book out means that I can, and perhaps should, revisit it sometime having been reminded of it by you. I do think that Parker got the basic tone of the story Chandler had in mind wrong. From his letters it was to be his attempt at a "Thin Man" high society caper, with the comedy coming from Marlowe's discomfort at the manners and trappings of his wife's wealth. I think Chandler would have made a wonderful job of it had his health and his mental energies allowed him to give it the benefit of his full attention and talent. Of course his fans might have hated it; it would have been quite light-hearted and by far the least typical of the Marlowe books. I could have suffered through its promised novelty gladly, though.

    Patrick

    ________________________________ From: "BaxDeal@aol.com" <BaxDeal@aol.com> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 20 April, 2010 5:46:38 Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Posthumous Westlake etc.

      

    I think you may be treating Parker a little unfairly. Nobody was ever going to be able to complete a Chandler novel successfully, and in particular that Chandler novel.

    I presume you've read that compilation of short stories featuring Philip Marlowe written by a number of mystery writers, including Dick Lochte, who's here on Rara Avis. some of course were more successful than others at capturing the feel and voice of Chandler, but to my recollection, a few did it quite well. who those guys were unfortunately escapes me now. but I remember that here on RA a number of years back, we read a different story from the compilation every week and commented on it

    John Lau

    "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize." Muhammad Ali

    -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Kennedy <pbjk2004@yahoo. co.uk> To: rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Mon, Apr 19, 2010 5:33 pm Subject: RARA-AVIS: Posthumous Westlake etc.

    I think you may be treating Parker a little unfairly. Nobody was ever going to be able to complete a Chandler novel successfully, and in particular that Chandler novel. The Chandler who began to write it was no longer the Chandler of 'The Big Sleep' or 'Farewell My Lovely', just as the Parker who tried to complete it no longer wrote like the guy in 'The Godwulf Manuscript' or 'Heaven Help the Child', but had gone on to find his own voice, totally unlike the Chandler tribute it had once been. Perhaps if he had tried completing 'The Poodle Spring Story' earlier in his career, things might have worked out differently, or at least less unsatisfactorily. I think that so much of Chandler's attraction lies in the actual writing and its

    distinctively formed style that it would have taken a mimic of even greater talent than the object of his mimicry to have had a chance of succeeding, and even then... How much, if any, of this applies to completing a Westlake novel I don't know, as I have only read a couple of his Stark / Parker series and that was some considerable time ago now; but whoever attempts it I wish him luck, a fair wind,

    and even fairer critics.

    Patrick

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    But so little of the book exists that it would really be like writing a book from scratch (not unlike Parker's POODLE SPRINGS, which had only a chapter or two as a starting point).

    and we all know how that worked out. as it was my intro into Robert B. Parker, I

    never felt compelled to give his work another look

    John Lau

    "If you even dream of beating me you'd better wake up and apologize." Muhammad Ali

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