RE: RARA-AVIS: crumley's 'last good kiss'

From: Mark Sullivan (DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net)
Date: 16 Apr 2010

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    The link is to Haywood's blog, with the two of them trading comments below the initial post. Mark

    > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > From: rrandisi@sbcglobal.net
    > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 04:55:08 +0000
    > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: crumley's 'last good kiss'
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    > Gar Haywood is a friend of mine, and I've read Lankford. Where did this exchange appear?
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    > RJR
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    > --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, "New Pulp Press" <bassoffj@...> wrote:
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    > > I think sometimes we get too caught up in the importance of hyper-realism in crime fiction. Certainly there is a place for gritty realism, but isn't there also a place for the over-the-top and bizarre? Some contemporary crime fiction is referred to deragatorily as being cartoonish--but I feel it's just a natural expansion of the pulp tradition.
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    > > --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, Mark Sullivan <DJ-Anonyme@> wrote:
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    > > > Thanks for posting this, Sonny.
    > > > Personally, I side with Lankford. While definitely containing a bit of over the top humor -- I mean, it opens with the great Fireball Roberts, an alcoholic bulldog -- I don't remember it being any more over the top than early Chandler. I mean, here's a guy who recommended (paraphrasing here) that when you get stuck, send in a guy with a gun and who famously did not know who committed one of the murders in his own book. Of course, Chandler had toned down many of those excesses by the time he wrote The Long Goodbye, to which The Last Good Kiss owes a whole lot.
    > > > But like Lankford, it's been a while since I've last read The Last Good Kiss. Maybe it's time for me to read it again, and the following one, Dancing Bear. I think Haywood's comments do apply to varying degrees to Crumley's following books.
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    > > > > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > > > > From: sforstater@
    > > > > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:43:17 -0700
    > > > > Subject: RARA-AVIS: crumley's 'last good kiss'
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    > > > > http://wisdommistakenforlunacy.com/?p=73
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    > > > > i found this post by g. a. haywood and exchange with l. t. lankford interesting. not only about this crumley but the relative importance of believability.
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