Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

From: sonny (sforstater@yahoo.com)
Date: 09 Jul 2009

  • Next message: Stephen Burridge: "Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye"

    i never even heard of 'the valley of fear'. is it any good?

    --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com> wrote:

    > From: Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
    > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:59 AM
    > As I recall there's no significant
    > western content in "The Valley of Fear."
    > It is based on the Molly Maguires, but not transplanted
    > west.
    >
    > Stephen
    >
    > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Joy Matkowski <jmatkowski1@comcast.net>wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > That's a lot of fictionalizing. The Molly Maguires
    > weren't a union, let
    > > alone a corrupt union, and, more important, they were
    > in Pennsylvania.
    > > Was the whole kit and caboodle reset somewhere in the
    > Wild West?
    > >
    > > Joy
    > > now reading Connelly: Echo Park
    > >
    > > Patrick King wrote:
    > > >
    > > > A case could be made that A STUDY IN SCARLET is
    > the very first
    > > western/mystery cross-genre piece.
    > > >
    > > > *******************************
    > > >
    > > > THE VALLEY OF FEAR also had its motive set in the
    > American west. The
    > > villains in that was a gangster-run union rather than
    > Mormons. Both stories
    > > are based on fact. THE STUDY IN SCARLET take for its
    > premise the Mountain
    > > Meadow massacre of 1857 in which a group of high-level
    > Mormons instigated an
    > > attack on an emigrant wagon train, attempting to make
    > it look like a Paiute
    > > native attack. THE VALLY OF FEAR fictionalizes the
    > exploits of Pinkerton
    > > mole, James McParland who famously infiltrated the
    > mine workers union, The
    > > Molly Maguires.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >
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