The French (well...some of them...), say he’s not black but ‘métis’ ...
whatever difference that makes...?
I guess you live inside your own boundaries...and as a Frenchman myself
(well, with two passports anyway), I witnessed many of those kind of
statements during and after the Algerian war...and probably, as a youngster
in MS and HS then, used some of them...as a well groomed product of my
environment...
Montois
On 1/20/09 7:56 PM, "sonny" <sforstater@yahoo.com> wrote:
> i think you just said that obama is noir. actually, he is mulâtre.
>
> --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net
> <mailto:Cinefrog%40comcast.net> > wrote:
>
>> > From: Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net <mailto:Cinefrog%40comcast.net> >
>> > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS:1,00 BEST CRIME NOVELS
>> > To: "RARA-AVIS" <rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com> >
>> > Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:34 PM
>> > If your comment on Auster (read below) is Œnot a
>> > judgement¹, then, as some
>> > French say, Obama is not black...
>> >
>> > The simple idea that Auster should not be included in
>> > discussions on any
>> > crime writing, or noir, or whatever related to all the
>> > topics touched upon
>> > in Rara, is highly symptomatic of the absurd ghetto into
>> > which he (Auster)
>> > has been kept by a large part of the critique here in the
>> > US, and especially
>> > the Crime Stories critics....and mrt is just repeating here
>> > their usual
>> > credo: ³More technique than substance²...please...!!...is
>> > that what one
>> > should call a Œclassificatory comment¹...(what are those
>> > by the way, where
>> > do they start and where do they end being
>> > Œclassificatory¹...)...
>> >
>> > Nothing else to add here since this terrain has been
>> > covered ample times in
>> > Rara in the past ten years and nothing evolves on that
>> > front...
>> >
>> > Better subject: Thanks a million to Duane for the article
>> > on Cody¹s demise
>> > and I hope that nothing of such fate will occur to the
>> > great store in
>> > Portland (Powell¹s)
>> >
>> > Montois
>> >
>> > On 1/19/09 4:38 PM, "jacquesdebierue"
>> > <jacquesdebierue@yahoo.com <mailto:jacquesdebierue%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>>> > > Steve Novak <Cinefrog@...> wrote:
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > Do we detect a litlle bias against Auster
>> > there...or are we about to
>>>>> > >> > re-ignate the ŒAuster-is-noir¹
>> > controversy...?
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > ...but..²on n¹est jamais prophète en son
>> > pays²...of course...and the
>>> > > fact
>>>>> > >> > that Auster is quoted in a list in the
>> > Guardian is therefore logical...
>>>>> > >> >
>>>>> > >> > ????
>>> > >
>>> > > It was not a judgment on Auster but merely a
>> > classificatory comment. I
>>> > > would never include him in such a list. He's a
>> > technical writer, a
>>> > > fluent writer, but not really a storyteller like crime
>> > literature
>>> > > pros. This is not the place to discuss his work, but I
>> > do think he is
>>> > > overrated by the critics. More technique than
>> > substance.
>>> > >
>>> > > Best,
>>> > >
>>> > > mrt
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