brian Re: RARA-AVIS: The Hard-Boiled Classics

From: sonny (sforstater@yahoo.com)
Date: 11 Jan 2009

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    why can't you ever read 'the long goodbye' and 'the glass key' again?

    --- On Sun, 1/11/09, Brian Thornton <bthorntonwriter@gmail.com> wrote:

    > From: Brian Thornton <bthorntonwriter@gmail.com>
    > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: The Hard-Boiled Classics
    > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 12:21 AM
    > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM,
    > <DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > > Mario wrote:"Aren't you thinking of Blood
    > Money? I like this "novel" made
    > > up of twostories, very pulpy,"
    > >
    >
    >
    > > Yes, I am. Big Knockover was the other story. I think
    > of it under that
    > > title because I first read it in the short story
    > collection with that title.
    > >
    >
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    > I believe the actual title is $106,000 BLOOD MONEY, and
    > yes, it and THE BIG
    > KNOCKOVER are two halves of the same story. Furthermore, I
    > agree, it is
    > definitely worth reading.
    >
    > I have to chime in here because if there's a bigger fan
    > of Hammett's short
    > stories out there I don't know of them. So many of his
    > works are no
    > available in Black Lizard collections such as THE
    > CONTINENTAL OP and
    > NIGHTMARE TOWN. When I think of Hammett of course I think
    > of the novels,
    > MALTESE FALCON, THE GLASS KEY, THIN MAN and the much weaker
    > RED HARVEST (You
    > could tell with it that he had cobbled together at least
    > for shorter form
    > pieces) and THE DAIN CURSE (My least favorite of his
    > books), hell, you can
    > even get that so-so later novelette of his, WOMAN IN THE
    > DARK... but I also
    > think of short stories.
    >
    > Titles like "Fly Paper," "Dead Yellow
    > Women," "The Gutting of Couffignal,"
    > "The Scorched Face" (my favorite of his stories),
    > "The House on Turk Street,
    > and its sequel, "The Girl With the Silver Eyes,"
    > all come to mind. GREAT
    > stuff.
    >
    > With Hammett it's nice to read them in order, because
    > it's fun to witness
    > his development as a writer, and this is all the more true
    > of Chandler, and
    > particularly with Chandler's short stories.
    > "Blackmailers Don't Shoot," his
    > very first published short, is just awful. But he got
    > better, and stuff
    > like "Guns at Cyrano's," "Red Wind"
    > "No Crime in the Mountains," "Bay City
    > Blues," and Spanish Blood" followed. Chandler
    > lifted a lot of the stuff
    > from the short stories he wrote for venues such as BLACK
    > MASK in the 1930s
    > and used it in his novels (he called it
    > "cannibalizing" them). So if you're
    > interested in tracking his development as a writer, reading
    > his short
    > stories and then his novels might be helpful. I'm
    > envious. Although I can
    > read all of this stuff over and over again, I can never
    > again read THE LONG
    > GOODBYE or THE GLASS KEY again.
    >
    > As for names to add to your list, I recommend Ross
    > MacDonald, because he
    > started writing in the 40s, his Lew Archer series detective
    > started out very
    > hardboiled, and in the 50s, (beginning with stuff like THE
    > DROWNING POOL)
    > his novels evolved into more psychological studies. By the
    > time he wrote
    > THE DOOMSTERS (1959) Archer seemed in many ways to be part
    > social worker,
    > helping the rich with the long-buried sins that were
    > jeopardizing their
    > futures (namely their children). Many novels mining the
    > same terrain
    > followed during the next six or so years: THE CHILL, THE
    > GALTON CASE, THE
    > WYCHERLY WOMAN, THE ZEBRA-STRIPED HEARSE, BLACK MONEY (his
    > personal
    > favorite), and he went on to write others until his final
    > novel THE BLUE
    > HAMMER, in 1976.
    >
    > It's been said before with some validity that MacDonald
    > wrote the same novel
    > over and over, but man, what a novel, and what variations
    > on a theme!
    >
    > Hope this helps-
    >
    > Brian
    >
    >
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