So where are all the (team) sports noirs? Rugby (as all
sport) is rampantly commercial now but it's not going to work
if the players on the pitch don't buy into the team thing.
Unlike football, where you can quite successfully indulge a
maverick in the team.
I agree that there is fertile ground for fiction there
(especially about the African kids). But noir?
Hardboiled?
And these examples of sports gambling are irrelevant. Fake
ID, Bad Lieutenant etc are about gambling and status, not
sports. Tommy Russo is not a jockey nor a trainer. His
involvement in sports is tangential. Getting back to the
original post, This Sporting Life is actually about the
sport. At least a bit.
I've read Fever Pitch and I don't find that it helps
here.
Charlie
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--- In
rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, Steve Novak
<Cinefrog@...> wrote:
>
> Yet, some people would say that organized sports are
part of the
overall
> alienation...etc...etc...and within the rugby world,
the shift of
Rugby
> Union from amateur sport to professionalism (early
90¹s in France,
UK...etc)
> is proof of the alienation endured at large through
rampant
> commercialisation, etc, etc....It is evident to me
that these could
be the
> foundations for characters and stories within that
sport¹s world...
> In that very vein the debates presently running
arount soccer team
> ownerships, player transfers, import of African
youngsters, matches
abroad
> for Premiership teams... all contribute to this
sense of alienation
by fans
> and/or players and could be the subtext for
plots,
characters...because the
> baddies are numerous and powerful...
> I suggest a good reading of Nick Hornsby¹s Fever
Pitch followed by
How
> Soccer Explains the World: An Unlikely Theory of
Globalization by
Franklin
> Foer....to get into the mood...and this could be
applied to any
organized
> sport...
>
> Remember in Bad Lieutenant the link between
character, gambling and
baseball
> World Series...and I bet we can all find many other
examples...
>
> Montois
>
> On 2/21/08 3:59 AM, "Charlie Williams"
<cs_will@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Which brings us back to rugby (or whatever
wholesome team sport
you
> > care to pick), which represents the antithesis
of alienation,
which
> > is maybe why there is a dearth of noir and
hardboiled stories in
that
> > area. Of course, all you have to do is get one
of the team
alienated
> > and you have a story. But I still think there
are other factors at
> > play that stop rugby going all noir.
> >
> > Charlie.
> >
>
>
>
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