Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: The Long Goodbye

From: Tim Wohlforth ( timwohlforth@opendoor.com)
Date: 22 Feb 2007


If I may suggest a slightly different approach to this discussion of morality and writing. Tom Nolan, in a review of crime fiction in the WSJ discusses the relationship between private eye fiction and the era that produces it. After discussing Hammett, Chandler, Spillane and Macdonald, he says of our times "A lot of detective stories in the first years of the new century show wobbly emotion and crippling self-doubt ...they depict several types of ambiguity." This is interesting. It may even be true. However, this kind of observation suggests, rather than discussing whether fiction has to be moral (or is immora) or better stated amoral), we should be discussing what the inevitable moral implcations of fiction tell us about the times we live in (or past writers write in.)

Tim

On Feb 22, 2007, at 4:55 PM, Michael Robison wrote:

> Mike wrote:
>
> And as a minor matter I certainly wouldn't turn to
> Oscar Wilde for advice on morality of any sort let
> alone the uses or morality in literature.
>
> **********
> Haha. What was his comment? Something about books
> being neither moral nor immoral? I can see two
> reasons for this. First, since art is open to
> multiple interpretations, its meaning is sufficiently
> ambiguous to preclude an objective moral or immoral
> character. Second, since art does not act itself, it
> can't be moral or immoral because morality involves
> action.
>
> Now I don't view either of these reasons as being the
> most silly thing I've ever heard, but neither do I
> find them entirely satisfying. As far as the first
> reason, it is true that art is to an extent open to
> personal interpretation, but I disagree with the
> reader-response theory that a book means whatever a
> reader wants it to. It's a small step from the idea
> that a book can mean anything to it meaning nothing.
> With meaningful interpretation strapped with at least
> some kind of limitation, it's not unreasonable to
> assume that the range of interpretation may all lay
> within either a moral or immoral zone. As far as the
> second reason limiting moral nature to actions, I
> would note that words express ideas and ideas have
> consequences which are pretty damned close to actions.
>
>
> miker
>
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