Re: RARA-AVIS: Noir and the Bible

From: Kerry J. Schooley ( gsp.schoo@murderoutthere.com)
Date: 03 Apr 2006


Yeah, I'm finding it bogus too. Christian themes may be raised, but I've not read anything where they are confirmed by noir. Not that I've read everything, by a long shot, but Nietzsche said god is dead, meaning the end of faith and superstition as a guide to human behaviour, and the existentialists wrote stories about how that played out.

That's one of the things that appealed to the French identified in film noir, isn't it? I mean, Spade, Marlowe and others had their own values because religious (and other) institutions had failed them, and modern man. In other stories, such as The Postman Rings Twice, faith did not keep man from straying. It didn't even enter into the picture.

In the end Christianity, and all other western faiths, are about transcendence. Noir is the opposite. Noir is about life without transcendence. If there's transcendence, through faith or anything else, it ain't noir in my books. Christian noir is a contradiction in terms.

Yer on yer own, baby. Kerry

At 04:44 PM 03/04/2006 -0700, you wrote:
>Charlie Williams wrote:
>
>I think this discussion is a bit bogus.
>
>*************
>Somewhere along the way somebody asked about Christian
>noir, and I surely wouldn't call that a bogus
>question. Flannery O'Connor, William Faulkner, and
>Graham Greene have all brilliantly invoked Christian
>themes in noirish works.
>
>miker
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