Tim,
I agree with you. Most of what's published these days as
"noir" is as you say, the world as a dark place. To me, a
better definiton would be to simply label these as dark crime
stories/novels. Most of the stories in the Century of Noir
anthology fit the definition you describe. So unfortunately
the definition of noir is slowly being watered down, and even
more unfortunate, true (traditional) noir is getting harder
to find (and even harder to publish!)
Dave Z.
--- In
rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, Tim Wohlforth
<tim@t...> wrote:
> Words evolve through usage. While a case can be made
that in
> "traditional" (e.g. James Caan) noir the protagonist
is doomed.
However,
> I challenge anyone to take any of the recent noir
anthologies ,
the
> Akashic ones, the Plots With Guns, the many books
called by
publishers
> and reviewers "noir" and prove that a majority of
these stories
fit this
> definition. The term was changed, its meaning,
rightly or wrongly,
> widened. Today "noir" simply means a "dark" story.
It is a view
of the
> world as a dark place that all these stories
share.
>
> I would refer you also to David Corbett's piece on
existentialism
in the
> current "Reflections of a Private Eye." In the
existentialist
view the
> world is chaotic, lacking in any meaning other than
the meaning a
person
> creates for himself through his actions. That's
noir. The
protagonist in
> such stories is no more doomed than we all are. If
you excuse the
> sexist language, "Man's Fate."
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