Bill Crider wrote ... I keep going back to literary
naturalism when I read these definitions of noir. Think of
McTeague at the end of the novel by the same name. Now
there's a guy who's fought against the fates (or his heredity
and environment) and who's now totally screwed.
Or how about Clyde Griffiths in AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY? That
book is the template for a lot of noir fiction, it seems to
me....
I just want to say how great it was getting together with the
group of rare and fine (as in cognac) birds at Bouchercon.
Many thanks to Bill Denton for arranging a get together at a
great pub. I even got up to attend the great noir debate
panel at 9:00 a.m. Saturday morning and was amply rewarded.
I'm happy to say that the participants all finally agreed on
definitions of noir and hard-boiled and the specific
differences between them ... just kidding, but a great
discussion.
The real reason I'm writing this, though, is that Bill Crider
(see above) has finally made the connections for me and
explained why I've been on this list for the past few
years.
Hey, Pat. Welcome aboard!
Con Lehane
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