Jim Doherty's most recent post of the subject is well worth a
look and he certainly makes good points--as do so many other
good posts from our resident experts on the subjects of Noir
and Hardboiled.
Frankly, I feel like an undergraduate in this
"graduate studies" group. But I'll stick to the basics.
Hardboilded=tough
Noir=screwed
All the extra stuff like "colloquial" limits Noir and
Hardboiled and would still, I think, exclude Chandler and
John D. MacDonald.
Like so many things--politics, religion, and the Yankees--the
arguments can go on forever with no absolute meeting of the
minds.
The point is, I think, that those of us who like hardboiled
and noir know what it is when we see it . . . well, maybe we
might fight about some of it, especially when we try to
shoe-horn Sherlock Holmes into Hardboiled or Hamlet into
noir.
Jack Bludis
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