thanks for the excellent definitions for hardboiled and noir.
its not that complicated... at least not with a clear and
to-the-point explanation such as yours.
miker
***************************** Upbeat endings or downbeat
endings are not what define either noir or hardboiled.
Neither are the two mutually exclusive.
Hardboiled is attitude.
Noir is atmosphere.
That which is tough and colloquial, whatever the ending, is
hardboiled.
That which is dark and sinister, whatever the ending, is
noir.
That which is tough and colloquial and dark and sinister,
whatever the ending, is both hardboiled and noir.
Hope I've made it clear. It's really not that
complicated.
JIM DOHERTY
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