RARA-AVIS: Re: RARA-AVIS Digest V3 #206

From: Lars-ūe Frykholm ( frykholm@algonet.se)
Date: 25 Apr 2000


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> RARA-AVIS Digest Monday, April 24 2000 Volume 03 : Number 206
>
> In this issue:
>
> RARA-AVIS: New articles online
> RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Pelecanos
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought/ Frank Kane
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought/ Frank Kane
> RARA-AVIS: Holy Days
> Re: RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
> Re: RARA-AVIS: RE: Ed's considered thoughts on The Maltese Falcon
> RARA-AVIS: Mosley on C-Span
> Re: RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Holy Days/ Religion in HB/Noir
> Re: RARA-AVIS: Holy Days/ Religion in HB/Noir
> RARA-AVIS: Readings List Reminder
> RARA-AVIS: The Croupier
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:10:18 -0400
> From: southpaw@altavista.net
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: New articles online
>
> In today's Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Pulitzer-winner Michael Skube
> has written a brief essay on Chandler's literary respectability, which
> can be read online at
>
> http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/features
> _93101f429250b12100ea.html
>
> That paper also contains an article on Southern mystery writers and the
> South as a setting in mystery books, at
>
> http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/today/features
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> Please note that the AJC leaves articles up for free on its site only
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:19:38 EDT
> From: Moorich2@aol.com
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
>
> Henry Kane's Peter Chambers novels debuted in hardback in the late 1940s,
> perhaps a year or two later than Frank Kane's Johnny Liddell. Since I am in
> Brussels far away from my collection, I can't be precise on dates or
> publishers. Both writers settled into paperback originals by the mid-1950s.
> I recall that both writers were contributors to that great digest Manhunt.
>
> I read and enjoyed both as a teenager but gradually favored Henry Kane. The
> Peter Chambers novels were sexy (for the time) and funny. Great snappy
> dialog. Frank Kane's prose was very plodding and was given to repeating
> pieces of business again and again. For example, Johnny Liddell walks into a
> nightclub and the bouncer offers him a cigarette. Liddell sniffs it and
> says, "No thanks, I prefer tobacco in mine." The first time I read this it
> was mildly cute; the fourth time I was ready to scream. Despite the
> wonderful McGinnis redheads on those Dell paperbacks, I stopped buying Frank
> Kane.
>
> Henry Kane's Peter Chambers was in a way a forerunner of Peter Gunn. And it
> was Henry Kane who did the novelization of Peter Gunn for Dell, in which Pete
> Chambers made a cameo appearance.
>
> Richard Moore
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:35:49 +0300
> From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Pelecanos
>
> Victoria Esposito-Shea wrote:
>
> > >What happens in the end of "The Sweet Forever"?
> >
> > Len Bias, the basketball player who was mentioned throughout the book, died
> > of a drug overdose--cocaine, if I recall correctly. At the time, it was
> > this enormous event, and kicked off what I've seen described as "a summer
> > of drug hysteria".
>
> I figured it was something us Europeans wouldn't understand or know. I thought
> the book would've ended perfectly without the Nick Stefanos part. But this
> gives it a bit more kick.
>
> Juri
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:39:47 +0300
> From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought
>
> Doug Bassett wrote:
>
> > Margaret Millar -- HOW LIKE AN ANGEL
>
> A great book, one or Millar's best.
>
> > And again, if anyone knows anything about this one,
> > I'd be eternally grateful:
> > Frank Kane -- ESPRIT DE CORPSE
>
> I've read couple of novels by F. Kane and they weren't bad. If this is
> pre-sixties, it should be worthwhile. Kane's later books are pretty tired. He
> died in 1968.
>
> Juri
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:44:56 +0300
> From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought
>
> Bill Crider wrote:
>
> > As far as I
> > know, Frank Kane's not related to Henry Kane.
>
> He's not.
>
> Juri
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:49:54 +0300
> From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought/ Frank Kane
>
> Etienne Borgers wrote:
>
> > --- Doug Bassett wrote:
> > > Frank Kane -- ESPRIT DE CORPSE
> > There were two writers with this name:
> > Frank Kane and Henry Kane.
>
> It's from 1965 (I didn't feel like checking it out the first time...), so
> unfortunately it's one of the worse Kanes.
>
> > I do not have those books with me, so I can't remember
> > which one was the lemon tree...
> > But I think the worst was Henry.
>
> Certainly. If you dislike bad jokes and overwriting, don't try Henry Kane
> under any circumstances!
>
> Juri
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:52:55 +0300
> From: Juri Nummelin < jurnum@utu.fi>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Recently bought/ Frank Kane
>
> Doug Bassett wrote:
>
> > You have to admit, it's a pretty wild coincidence that
> > there were two hb paperback writers with the same last
> > name working at about the same time. Was one of these
> > a pseudonym?
>
> No. They were both real names. Frank Kane never used a pseudonym, but Henry
> Kane used a handful of them.
>
> Juri
> jurnum@utu.fi
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:57:55 -0400 (EDT)
> From: DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net (Mark Sullivan)
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: Holy Days
>
> The religious holidays got me thinking. What are some of the best
> hardboiled/noir books involving religion? Off the top of my head, I
> think of God Is a Bullet and whichever one of the Paul Pine "Halo" books
> (man, I love the Paul Pines books and story) by Howard Browne/John Evans
> that involved a cleric. Any other good books involving organized
> religion? And are any of them non-cynical?
>
> Mark
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:04:02 -0500
> From: Bill Crider < abc@wt.net>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
>
> Good to see a posting from the Richard Moore here on rara-avis!
>
> Anyone see the "Chickweed Lane" comic strip in today's color funnies?
>
> Bill Crider
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> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:13:38 +0000
> From: ejmd < ejmd@cwcom.net>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: RE: Ed's considered thoughts on The Maltese Falcon
>
> William Denton < buff@pobox.com> writ:
>
> > It's really good, Eddie. If you'd mentioned it before, I must have
> > missed it.
>
> Thanks, Bill :-) Glad you liked it.
> I'm not sure if I have mentioned this one before.
>
> > (It's awfully big, though--perhaps you could split it up
> > into smaller pages?)
>
> Yes, it's huge ... I ought to make a better html version.
>
> > Is this a chapter from a book or dissertation you're
> > doing?
>
> It's a chapter from the unfinished (aka 'ongoing') dissertation and is
> so far unpublished.
> (If anyone wants to offer it/can suggest a home, I'd be interested in
> offers/suggestions).
>
> ED
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:43:12 -0500
> From: James Rogers < jetan@ionet.net>
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: Mosley on C-Span
>
> An interview with Walter Mosley will be shown on C-Span's Booknotes program
> tonight, Easter Sunday, at 11:00 P.M. Eastern Time. Interview will focus on
> his non-fiction book _Workin On The Chain Gang_.
>
> James
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:54:57 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Etienne Borgers < freeweb@rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: The Kanes
>
> Thanks to Richard Moore for the interesting complement
> about the Kanes which will be certainly more useful
> than my previous posting...
>
> - --- Moorich2@aol.com wrote:
> > Henry Kane's Peter Chambers novels debuted in
> > hardback in the late 1940s,
> > perhaps a year or two later than Frank Kane's Johnny
> > Liddell. Since I am in
> > Brussels far away from my collection, I can't be
> > precise on dates or
> > publishers.
>
> And... my own old collection is in Brussels! (not
> joking)
>
> > I read and enjoyed both as a teenager but gradually
> > favored Henry Kane. The
> > Peter Chambers novels were sexy (for the time) and
> > funny. Great snappy
> > dialog. [snipped] I stopped buying Frank Kane.
>
> > Richard Moore
>
> So, maybe my first guess was wrong.
> But we came apparently both, Richard Moore and myself,
> to the same conclusion: One of them Kanes is to
> avoid...
>
> E.Borgers
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:46:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Etienne Borgers < freeweb@rocketmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Holy Days/ Religion in HB/Noir
>
> - --- Mark Sullivan < DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net> wrote:
> > The religious holidays got me thinking. What are
> > some of the best
> > hardboiled/noir books involving religion? [snip]
> > Any other good books
> > involving organized religion?
>
> Do not forget Day Keene and his very good:
> SLEEP WITH THE DEVIL
>
> Another good book:
> NIGHT OF THE HUNTER- by David Grubb
>
> A touch of exotism?
> LES TRUANDS DU TEMPLE (The Temple Mosbsters)-1987- by
> Julius A. Lion - drug trafficking in the heart of
> religious commercialism, in Lourdes (French town
> famous for pilgrimages after the apparitions of the
> Virgin Mary)
> Lion, a French writer, uses some offbeat humor mixed
> to his unusual plot.
>
> Some from Chester Himes, but depending where you put
> the boundaries of "organized religion"
>
> Cults are definitely not in your scope I guess.
> If yes, then you will find a torrent of references.
>
> >And are any of them non-cynical?
>
> Father Brown?
>
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> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:39:10 +0000
> From: Bob Toomey < btoomey@javanet.com>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Holy Days/ Religion in HB/Noir
>
> Etienne Borgers wrote:
> >
>
> > Cults are definitely not in your scope I guess.
> > If yes, then you will find a torrent of references.
> >
> > >And are any of them non-cynical?
> >
> > Father Brown?
>
> And Millar's HOW LIKE AN ANGEL.
>
> BobT
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> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:30:05 -0400 (EDT)
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> Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:25:04 -0700
> From: "Christoforo" < Christoforo@email.msn.com>
> Subject: RARA-AVIS: The Croupier
>
> If you live in Los Angeles, I strongly urge you to see Mike Hodge's "The
> Croupier". Satisfying, hard as nails and for my money, (going out on a limb
> here) a better movie than "Get Carter".
>
> Anyone else seen it?
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> Brad
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