On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, michael david sharp wrote: : To the first question: in its pessimism about the competence of : governmental institutions, the hard-boiled attitude of much 30s-40s : fiction does (vaguely) have something in common w/ what appears to : be an increasingly libertarian American electorate. If the first person meant "libertarian" in the sense of whacked-out gun nuts holing up in Montana, I don't see any connection. If he meant people who want to be left alone, I'd agree there's some similarity. But a hardboiled dick would be as equally skeptical of a free-market capitalist as he would of the government, I think. He knows it won't make much of a difference. He'd still have to wade though the same crap and corruption every day. There's quite a bit of sentiment against the rich in hardboiled dick stories, I suppose because it's so easy for the rich to buy their way out of any trouble. Did Mike Hammer ever deal with any really rich families? I wonder what Spillane made of them. : > On another tact, I'd be interested to hear hb-slang for 'artist.' I haven't seen anything. But your average hardboiled type would probably be pretty sarcastic when commenting on anything "modern." Bill -- William Denton : buff@vex.net <-- Please note new address. Toronto, Canada <-- I'm not at io.org any more. http://www.vex.net/~buff/ Caveat lector. - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca