Reply to: RE>RARA-AVIS:Izzi, Spenser, etc. Sandra, Since you ask, here's my two cents on Izi: A few years back, just after the critics had discovered him and he was achieving his first round of fame, I picked up one of his books. Unfortunately, I can't recall the title. It was well written and compelling enough that I kept reading through two more. But sometime early the third one, I realized that something was troubling me, and by the middle of the book, I'd figured out what it was: Through all three books, I never met a single character who I liked or would want to spend time with. They were all slimeballs of one stripe or another -- even his protagonists. So while I continue to admire him as a creative and compelling writer, I haven't read any more of his stuff. The hb writers I read and reread avidly all create protagonists with admirable qualities. They are "heroes", if you will: Sam Spade, Philip Marlowe, Lou Archer, Spenser, even the comic-booky-but-often-wildly-entertaining Mike Hammer. Re the threat on whether Spenser is hard-boiled: I think not; certainly not as much as in the earlier novel. But Hawk definitely is, and the best Spensers are the ones that feature Hawk prominently. Dave Baurac -------------------------------------- Date: 1/16/97 5:59 PM To: Dave Baurac From: rara-avis@icomm.ca Happy to join this growing list. I've been a fan of hardboiled writing for several years. Not sure how my fave authors rank according to your standards, but I'm a big fan of Jim Thompson, David Goodis, Dashielle Hammett, Raymond Chandler (just completed the book of his letters), Andrew Vachss, and Lawrence Block. During a recent internet search I came up with an article about Eugene Izzi having hung himself. Vachss mentioned his work as being a favorite of his. I had never heard of Eugene Izzi...so, natch, I'm curious. Anybody know anything about him? Like the owner of this list, I'm hung up on gangster lingo and collect dictionaries of same. Anyone have anything along those lines they're ready to let go of, I'd love to hear from you. Best, Sandra Hess shess@sirius.com who lives on a not so mean street of San Francisco - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.anl.gov with ADMIN;16 Jan 1997 17:58:44 -0600 Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by loner.icomm.ca (8.8.4/8.7.3) id SAA20944 for rara-avis-list; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:49:49 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: loner.icomm.ca: majordomo set sender to owner-rara-avis@icomm.ca using -f Received: from mail1.sirius.com (mail1.sirius.com [205.134.253.131]) by loner.icomm.ca (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20941 for <rara-avis@icomm.ca>; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:49:36 -0500 Received: from @pop.sirius.com ([206.32.73.96]) by mail1.sirius.com (8.6.12/960710) with SMTP id PAA19155 for <rara-avis@icomm.ca>; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:48:39 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:48:39 -0800 Message-Id: <199701162348.PAA19155@mail1.sirius.com> X-Sender: shess@pop.sirius.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: rara-avis@icomm.ca From: Sandra Hess <shess@sirius.com> Subject: RARA-AVIS: New List Member/Eugene Izzi? Sender: owner-rara-avis@icomm.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rara-avis@icomm.ca - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca