On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, michael david sharp wrote: : I don't see Ross MacDonald as having the same world view as either : Hammett or Chandler (keep in mind I haven't read the Entire corpus : of any one of these authors, so . . .). RM's world, though : "hardboiled" in the sense that toughness rules, is more morally : complex than that of either of his eminent predecessors. Morally or psychologically? One of the things I don't like about Ross Macdonald is all the psychoanlytic stuff. The book I have on him says he underwent psychotherapy from 1956-57. All the Freudian things, and the way there's always some event from 25 years ago that is the key to the current mystery, I find rather tiresome. His earlier works aren't like that, though, and neither do they stray into being overly literary. I read all the Archers about a decade ago, and re-read a couple last year. They didn't seem very morally complex to me, but I may have missed some finer points due to skimming. A quote I noticed: "My wider and more conscious vocabulary reflects a change in our living speech ... Chandler's hardboiled proletarianism has elements of self-stultification." : It's thus somewhat ironic that RM later named his own detective (Lew : Archer) after this dead partner, as if MacDonald were recuperating : someone (or some ideal . . . something) for which Hammett had little : or no use. According to this book, Macdonald said he did not consciously choose the name Archer after Spade's partner. Lew he got from Lew Wallace, who wrote _Ben-Hur_ - apparently he liked the name. : Perhaps I should be comparing Hammett's work to MacDonald's Lew : Archer novels, rather than to MacDonald's early work. I'm not : denying a kinship betw. RM and DH (or RC). Such a connection is : patently clear. I think that RM adds, for better or worse, a humane : dimension to his fiction. "Politics" and "feelings" prove much : harder for the protagonist to shake off. I think you'd find a lot more in common between Hammett and Macdonald's earlier works than his later ones. But does he add a humane dimension, or is he more wishy-washy? Anyway, Hammett's a far better writer than Macdonald, IMO. Bill -- William Denton : buff@vex.net <-- Please note new address. Toronto, Canada <-- I'm not at io.org any more. http://www.vex.net/~buff/ Caveat lector. - # RARA-AVIS: To unsubscribe, say "unsubscribe rara-avis" # to majordomo@icomm.ca